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Messianic jews

They are jewish their perspectives should be included 213.28.225.234 (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, they are no longer Jewish, according to Jewish Law. Their view has no relationship whatsoever to any Jewish view toward this person. DrKN1 (talk) 21:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False quote was added to this article, and now removed.

This article until the present edit, contained a patently false quote from Maimonides letter to Yemen.

In the Maimonides letter, he writes the following:

"The first one to have adopted this plan was Jesus the Nazarene, may his bones be ground to dust. He was a Jew because his mother was a Jewess although his father was a Gentile."

See here the original text, Epistle to Yemen, towards the end of 3., translation available at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Yemen/Complete,

The above text quoted from Maimonides Epistle to Yemen, thereby disqualifies him from being or becoming the Messiah. Maimonides in Laws of Kings (Mishne Torah) writes as a matter of Jewish Law, that the Messiah will come from the House of David. So this is a pivotal point.

Before the correction, the text in "Jewish views on J...", read as follows:

"Jesus the Nazarene was a Jew because his mother was a Jewess and his father was a Jew descended from the line of King David."

The falsehood is obvious, and is obviously deliberate. By falsely putting those words into the mouth of Maimonides, they attempt to pretend that Maimonides places him in the lineage of the Messiah.

The text before correction is thereby boldly counterfactual, and should be seen as a form of vandalism.

DrKN1 (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Status of "Christian Jews"

The last couple of sentences in the 3rd paragraph of the introduction:

"In the State of Israel, Israeli Jews who endorse the belief that Jesus is the Messiah or Christ are not considered Jews either by the Chief Rabbinate of Israel nor by the Israeli government."

I've looked at the references included with this statement and see no corroboration.

Can someone provide documentation for this? If not, shouldn't this be removed? Rantedia (talk) 17:02, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]